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The State of United States Politics

Started by Michael Koby · 8 months ago

But political parties are more than just a side you pick, they represent ideas, principles, and even beliefs. They are an ideology about how things should be done by the people and for the people. The fact McCain has just about half of the numbers in the polls really shows that a lot of peop ... Continue reading »

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  • I don't trust the poll numbers. I don't think they are accurate and I think they will always show only a one or two point favor each way. You could run Hitler against Ghandi and the polls are going to show "a tight race". The fact is this: there are many people that are just that dumb. When you figure that out, you don't have to constantly wonder why things are the way they are.

    As for your last comment, if there were really a whole lot of people out there still holding on to the ideals of the Republican party, it would be Obama vs. Ron Paul. The McCain campaign would have died off sometime last year. I think that a majority of people who claim to be Republican, don't even know what that means. To them, the party is like a football team they have always rooted for. They don't even know why.
  • Yea, there is probably some truth to what you say about poll numbers.
    However, with this country's political landscape being split like it is, I
    can very much see the polls being really close (and the actual election for
    that matter).

    I still hold to my last comment though. I think a lot of people out there
    still hold to the ideals of the Republican party. I hold to this not just
    because of the polls but also due to conversations I have had both online
    and off with various people. There are 2 reasons that Ron Paul didn't make
    it to main campaign.

    1) Ron Paul was largely ignored by mainstream media. So much so that on one
    republican debate, he was the 5th most popular candidate and when the 3rd
    most popular dropped out (moving Ron Paul into the 4th position), the
    station holding the debate changed the rules so that Ron Paul wouldn't be on
    the debate.

    2) Ron Paul is marked as republican, but his views generally move towards
    the Libertarian side of the political spectrum. He's so far "right" that
    republicans think he's "extreme" so even if he had been followed by
    mainstream media, I doubt that he would have been able to grab the
    nomination because the party would have voted someone more "center".

    With that said, I'd like to mention that I was all for Ron Paul (still am)
    and was really gunning for him to win the nomination. It's a pity he didn't
    win.
  • If McCain was a minority candidate and Obama was white - the polls would say 60% - 30% Obama. Republican Ideals...?
  • I think race has little to do with it. If Obama was white, most of the people voting against him would still do so, as race has nothing to do with it (it's largely his economic policies people have issues with).

    For a more specfiic example look at 2004 for example. The democrats needed a candidate that could beat Bush. Kerry and Bush were neck and neck in the polls. Bush eventually won (both the electoral and popular votes). A large percent of the people who dislike Bush now disliked him in 2004. Now according to many (including republicans) Bush didn't meet expectations in his second term either. So now it's safe to say that more people dislike Bush than in 2004. If more people dislike Bush and the republican party than in 2004, why are all the polls show McCain and Obama in a neck and neck race? Some people vote their party for the reasons that J.P. mentioned above, others vote party because they believe in the general ideals of the party.

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